jbonlinea

Dear all I've been using btsync for a while with my nas synology and my mac. After a dificult start everything was fine. Now (six month latter) I want to use btsync on my window pc as well. I thus have 3 devices that are syncing a same folder. However the sync is only partial between the pc and the two others devices, here are the details 1 synology 712+, MacOSX.6 x64, Win7 x64, all btsync clients up to date - I copied my file on a folder on the syno and then add the folder to btsync - On the mac, I added this folder in btsync app and waited the sync to be done up to here the syno and the mac were synced, both have the same number of file (51.3Go in 48 786 files) then - I turned off btsync on the mac (better to be safe than sorry) - On the pc I added the sync folder to btsyncclien and let the sync be done. after a while btclien on the pc says that the folder is synced however on the syno, btsync says that some 139.5Mo still need to be uploaded on the pc. you can wait as long as you want it won't move after turning on and off the apps on the two devices (syno and pc) I turned on btsync on my mac, and had similar problems, but after some few reboot of all the devices here is what I get from the various client * syno -> synced with mac syno-> want to upload 139.5Mo on the pc Pc-> synced with the syno pc -> synced with the mac Mac -> synced with the syno Mac-> want to upload 139.5Mo on the pc If i add a file on the syno, it's synced on bot devices if I add a file on the mac, it's synced on the syno, but on the pc I get something ackward : btsync cliens says that it's synced but the file has a!sync extention.vwhen i reboot the client on the pc, the sync finish and the file is indeed synced if I add a file on the pc, it is synced on both others devices which still want to upload the 139.5Mo of the begining plus the btsync client on the pc maintain that it had to upload the 21Ko of the test file.again if i tunr of the btsync client on the pc and start it over again, then it says that it is synced with both devices, and I get bact to the situation detailled before (here*) Any help please ?

hello well it's late but nice anyway... I'm not sure about what i said but it seems that since the last update of btsync client on the mac the problem do not exist anymore...

well it does in the activity monitor at least but, if i create a new folder (anywhere on my harddrive) on the mac and copy paste it in a btsync folder, the upload toward the syno will occur however if i edit my file on my pc, or move file on the syno, or whatsoever, btsync will do the sync, theoretically, but practically it does not have the right on this folder so nothing happen on the mac As the curent user on the mac has read/write right over this folder, the only explanation I see it that btsync is not, or at least not only running as the curent user, otherwise the sync would really occur no ? I missed something ?

well I'm not sure it does. when you create a new folder, the defaul setting on mac is that this folder is only in read/write for the current user, even if this folder is within a folder with broader read/write rights. And my observation si that btsync can't sync in this newly created folder unless you change the read/write rights. It is quite an issue on a day to day use perspective... any tricks ? (again not ye ttime to go thhrough the whole of your previous answer but soon)

Hello agian. I was busy and couldn't go through it this we. I'll do it this week I have an extra question on mac os x, which user is btsync ? I mean on the behaf of what user is it acting ? Of which group btsync belongs ? Is btsync user natively of the same group that the "curent" user on the mac (i mean the user logged in) ? thank's and I'll come back soon to your previous post helps a lot very grateful

one more thanks for your repply yes indeed, the issue comes from the syno side, I do agree I have re-established the privileged I want them to be on the mac on the syno, I modified the ACL of the shared folder all users of the group "user" has all right over the shared folder guest have no rights sync works As I understood that there are internal unix right and external ones, my question is : Is it safe to let things like this, I mean do not create a ACL rule that say that everyone but the group "user" has no rights over the folder ? For me it won't be a problem as I can create other syno users belonging from an another group than "user"; thus my user, being the only account of the "user" group, will be the only user of the syno to access the folder. But what about others users, I mean mac or win users, or even users from outisde the local network ? So now the point is to secure the folder against outsiders, not other syno users. Do you get my point and do you know what should be done ? I'll wait for your reply and then may do a post on syno forum, on the french syno forum, btsync is surprisingly under-documented. you really have to crowl and look for 2 was sync alternatives to find something, and it basically say, use the repo to install btsync on your syno, no mention of the need to activate ACL for the shared folder, etc. I thin I'll do a post/tuto like "btsync instalation on a syno - an average user experience" because I still beleive btsync is one of the best 2 way sync solution. Cheers Jo

thank's for replying again in the syno, non of the comand works as the argument -not is not recognised so I executed it on the mac local folder (that is/should be synced with the syno) in the mac, the first comand gives no return, meaning that all the folders has the proper rights indeed, yesterday, I made sure the folder, and all the folders on the path, where the modification took place had proper rights as well I also applied, through tue mac gui, read/write right to all files and subfolders the second return, thousand of lines, indeed. my folder (and subfolder) contains thousands of file that have as many origin as there are dialec in the word So what, should I give chmod 777 to all the files wihtin the shared folder ? As I don't know how to do that in the console, I logged in as root on the mac, and did it through the gui, so all the files are -rwxrwxrwx do not change nothing on btsync on the syno side, indeed as these files are on the mac, not the syno not sure/don't think the situation is the same on the syno at large, as I applied these chmod things after the first sync however i made sure yesterday that the folder, and folders on the path, to the file i edited was in chmod777, still the file is not updater and the newly created ones in the same folder not uploaded on the syno, I edit the propoerties of my shared folder, not in the "shared folder" panel, but in file station. Basically I applied to all file and sub folders read/write right to everyone ->sync start and occur in both way !!!!! good Now I have to close this free for all. On my device, this could be the syno, the mac, or an ectra device that will come in the play, I want that only my user on the mac and my suer on the syno (and not everybody of the group my user belongs from) and the Admin/root (admin for syno et root for the mac) have read right, everybody else should have no access, but if I specify the countrary for a specific file/folder So If I want to edit the right in the syno to give it all to my user, i can't apply it as the syno return "the changed can't be applied as the admin account "MyUser" has a total control of privileges" (translated from french) So i create a rule and give no right to everybody, and create an another rule and give read/write right to all the user in the group my user belongs from --> btsync return "bit torrent can not identifie the destination folder" so i deleted the rule saying that everyone has no right and only left the rule saying that the group my user belong from has right -->working ok so how do I do to make the damn syno unerstand that nobody has right over this folder but MyUser (and the surper admin indeed) Is btsync really acting in the name of my user ? well I stil confused what is the way forward. one more problem: the syno is creating shared folder for its audio station, photostation, etc and i want to sync these folder as well. however the syno says "shared folders reserved fo system use can't deal with acl" so i can't get rid of this "don't have the permissions..." in btsync using the same technique as above any clues Thank's again Ps 1: anyway, acl on specific file should not affect btsync behaviour at shared folder level ? or i really don't understand anything

ok thanks for your reply again. I think I got you at first, but avoided a long message I have only one user on the syno, and it has admin priviledges (and it it not the admin user of the system) I followed this tutorial for security on internet http://www.synology....ow.php?q_id=478 sorry can't find the english version but say: - disable admin and guest acocunt - auto redirect http connection toward https - use ftp via ssl - auto block_ip if mistaken password my syno is configured manually, no use of EZ assistant etc. only one user of the syno use btsync, indeed the user has read/write right over the shared folder from the mac i could sync toward the syno 100% sure the other way round not sure with the same login/pass I coud read/write the shared folder through the syno web gui, FTP and a file explorer on win (connect to a network drive) and mac (afp://) then problem start by their own, i know that's weired. the btsync gui on the syno says "don't have permission..." btsync on the mac say "added" or "updated" when it send a file (wich actually doens't goes) however i can still read/write the shared folder through the syno web gui, FTP and a file explorer on win (connect to a network drive) and mac (afp://) to try to solve the pb - I gave read/write to the group my useb belongs from - i activated nfs file sharing and gave permission ta the client with the IP of the syno nothing changed i rebooted the syno as well as btsync no change i logged in in ssh with the following arguments ssh -l root IP_syno then entered my admin password to login as root and not admin (i read this is waht should be done on syno) I go to the volume where my shared folder is and I type ls -l my shared folder is said to be drwxrwxrwx I go back to btsync gui on the syno but no change, even after rebooting btsync I'm stuck, hell stuck do you have any clues ? I don't want to start over from scratch with the syno, re-instal the dsm and copy again my damn 800Go of datas I went for btsync becuse it seems to be the best solution, the developpers deserve encouragement, it's light and independent and etc, but the manual is really bad, first syncing has to be done with a lot of care and problem apears by magic. This kind of everlasting problem are un-acceptable for simple advanced computer users whose work has nothing to do with netwok and security issues,n or with computers, I don't know, maybe I'll move to owncloud or even cloud station and stop struggling over night and come back to bt sync in a year or two Maybe one of you have a clue... Hope one of you can help thanks for reading Jo

Well... yes it is the syno gui that says it could not write thank's for the clue, it could have been relevant but If I add a file in a sync folder on the mac, it is not uploaded on the syno anymore (but btsync on the mac say "added") if I add a file in a sync folder on the syno, it is not uploaded on the mac anymore neither so... still stuck :-)

Dear all I'm still new regarding btsync and synology and my skill in "network" and "shell" are limited but not null I've recentely installed btsyns on my synology ds712+ using the syno community repo. As the repo did not had the laste version I upgradre manually btsync following the instruction on this post : I then installed btsync on bot my mac and my pc and had a try, everything seemed to work as I feel (even if some few advanced features would be welcomed) For a while, the bi-directional sync was working smoothly between the mac and the syno. However now, sync do not occur anymore and in the btsyn gui of the syno it says "don't have permission to write in selected folder" and this for all the synced folders. I check in Mac os what were the permission for the folder and it is in read and write for everyone in the gui (which should mean chmod 777) I actually don't like it but I can live with it for few days. So how a hell btsync can say he don't have the rights, especially when it was working perfectly the day before. When I saw you released an update recently, I tried to do the update manually (on the synology), following the same tutorial mentionnend above, but it stays on 1.1.48 and say it's up to date. Actually, the last non-update update solved the problem of permission I had. However now, maybe 24-48hours after the non-update update, the problem rise again. Any help. I wonder things like how can i create a group of user and user for btsync and giving it the right to read and write in my sync folders I also wonder if the problem could come from my fire wall anyway all this is un-understandable for me as it worked the day before and no settings change were done or if there is a trick related to the functioning of bt sync Please help, its getting on my nerve and if I don't find a relyable and enduring solution, I'll move back to at the end of the day more finished solution, cloudstation. But I like btsync Thanks for your attention Jo