calvyb

HI. After many years of faithful service it seems my trusty old dlink dns320L has finally bitten the bullet and died. so I'm looking at replacement products. got my eye on a synology 216 or 218 i believe it is.. does anyone have any experience with these or any similar products and resilio. one of the things im looking for is something a bit easier to set up than my old 320l was. which is one reason i was looking at synology it seems its pretty much just a case of click and install in its DSM software. so any advice, suggestions, experience or recommendations are appreciated. Thanks :)

I was experiencing this problem as well and had resorted to using alt f4 to shutdown my computers. I did receive an email from Microsoft support a a couple of days ago saying a question had received an update:- Source:- https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-performance/apps-reopening-on-start-up-after-shutdownrestart/b6d6b6b1-dc08-4ecd-aad7-088eb7cb723e Hope this helps. has worked for me thus far. restarted my computers quite a few times just to test it

Something i'd like to suggest for future versions of sync is the ability to group folders somehow. maybe create groups directly or color code them. In one of my sync set ups for example my network storage syncs my own documents, pictures, favorites, media, and downloads folders, It also syncs my partners documents, pictures, favorites, media and downloads, and our kids documents, pictures, favorites, media and downloads. and even my parents (not very tech savvy so I try to keep there stuff back ed up for when they bust something) it then syncs the dcim and media folder on my android phone, and my partners and kids. there then becomes an issue when you look at the sync ui and see for example 4 documents folders or 4 dcim folders or even 8 media folders.. I think it'd be a pretty good feature to be able to organise these these somehow, maybe create a group called my stuff. and have my synced folders there, then my partners folders in another group and again for kids. or perhaps color code them. give my syncs blue folder icons and my partners syncs red folder icons for example. something to make it easier to identify which dcim folder goes to which device sort of thing without having to check the peers list for every folder all the time.

I do not see a md-refresh-interval in the power settings. What would that option do and could it be added to the .conf file manually. The nas device in question is a d link dns-320l pretty old I believe as you don't do packages for it. So I'm only able to use packages done by a third party and currently 2.3 is the latest. What I was hoping to do was set up encrypted shares for my folders using this device and setting it up away from home. At my parents or something so I have a copy of important data away from home without needing to cough up for Dropbox or Gmail subscription costs. It seems strange that 2.2 my device sleeps but 2.3 it doesn't even with the exact same settings.

Ok recently put some new drives in an old nas box I got and upgraded sync to the latest package available on my model currently 2.3. set it up to do my shares and set the usual options folder rescan config frefresh and debug to 0000. after it synced everything left it and later realised my nas was not going to sleep. stopped the sync service to test and sure enough went to sleep after 5-10 mins. started the service and again sync stayed awake for hours. so uninstalled 2.3 and installed 2.2 did all the settings again and the drive went to sleep straight away. is there something in newer versions of sync that keeps the nas awake. I was hoping to use a newer version where I could set up encrypted folder on a remote location so would like to find a way to make the nas sleep using newer versions.

running anything else? my nas runs a minidlna server which sometimes spins up the drives whenever any dlna device connected to my network is turned on, they will spin down again if not accessed though, I have config save set at 86400 seconds, and rescan tracker and relay set to 300 seconds, my drives sleep normally with these options. if I'm correct I believe "config refresh" is the same as "rescan tracker and relay" depends which sync you're running. (2.2.1 myself) and thus I don't believe config refresh should keep your drives awake. the save might though. although if it is to sd card I can't see why it would wake the drives. worth trying it to see? if 0 doesn't work try 86400 (24hours) at one point I discovered a cause for my drives being awake was that my nas was mapped as a network drive on my pcs, so windows always connected to it. removed the mapping and solved the issue.

My folder rescan is set to a day. (86400 seconds) on my nas and have the logs disabled. lets my drives sleep really well. also have my tracker / relay rescan set to 5 minutes (300 seconds) I've found this option doesn't wake my drives. with these settings I've honestly never had an issue with syncs, they're almost instantaneous wherever I am, I can be using my laptop on a wireless network 200 miles from home and sync still picks up peers at home and syncs changes almost immediately with my home nas, perhaps it's something to do with using trackers and relay server options but neither of these interfere with my drives sleeping. so you shouldn't have any issues at all with a high rescan. did not know you could set it to 0 though. might try that at somepoint.

Also wondering about this, was looking for a way to delete disconnected peers from the list as I've recently changed mobiles and reinstalled an os on one of my pcs, so now have 2 peers i'd like to delete as they no longer exist.

any answer for my earlier question. does the owner need to be online every time a peer connects or just the first time with advanced folders? cheers

another question. based on this extract from the faq "Advanced (formerly known as 2.0) folders are available in Pro only and are designed for sharing and collaboration. Owners of advanced folders can change or revoke access at any time. Only an owner can share the folder, and the device that created the link must be online for a peer to connect." is this for the first time only or everytime? for example if device a owns a folder will devices b and c still sync that folder with each other if device a is offline assuming they have both connected to a previously. or will those devices not sync until device a is back online?

I asked because on the devices in question sync is installed via addon packages which can be slow to be updated. things like this. https://www.synology.com/en-us/dsm/app_packages/bittorrentsync i know sync can be installed via ssh / telnet but i don't know how. this is why I was wondering if a perpetual license would work on older versions. so I could use my perpetual license on my nas until an updated package is available will keep an eye out for updated packages i guess.

Great news. shall definitely be looking to get a perpetual licence for sync. quick question. do perpetual licenses work on older versions of sync? there are a couple of devices around my sync network that install sync via addons and these addons can be a little slow to be updated. think one of the nas devices I keep at my parents as an off site back up, hasn't been updated since 2.1 would my 2.2 identity / perpetual license work on this device? cheers

is 1.4 likely to work on windows 10? if for some reason there's issues will they be fixed? with the free upgrade to windows 10 coming up, just checking if any of my software will have problems. and like many people have said 2.0s subscription pricing model is a big no no.

It really doesnt make it cheaper in the long term. if a user paid for a perpetual license for 2.0. There's a good chance a user may be using hat same version for a few years. At which point the cost for that user would be $40 for 3 years use of software. Where as a subscription plan that 3 years would costbthat user $120. Which ultimately means it costs the customers more money not less. In that time though there may be several new versions or updates added features thats cool but its likely none of those new features or updates are of any interest to many of your customers. In a way it's like windows. Windows 8 had all these new features and functions but for the most part none of them were wanted. And thus given the choice most people are still using windows xp or 7. Sync could be the very same. Version 3 may have new functions or features but users won't be interested and thus continue to use Version 2. like many I'd pay for a perpetual license for 2.0 pro. but I'm unwilling to pay for a subscription model. Where if next year version 3s new features dont appeal to me and thus I dont pay. Then version 2 stops working. The subscription fee is the one thing thats stops me paying for sync. And thus I'm still using 1.4 and will continue to do so. Which equals lost revenue for the developers of sync

Bit of a work around but can be dome. on pc create a folder and add it to sync get the read write key. turn of the camera uploads on your phone. on your mobile add that key and point it to the dcim folder. et voila. may be alternate ways but this is the method I used on my mobile.

Not really. a lot of people here have said they'd pay for a license if it meant they own the software out right. so where you may have 10k customers out of 100k, you also have a big ass chunk opf that 100k that would pay for a license. thus instead of 10k paying customers you might have 50k paying customers. there's a big loss in potentital revenue. I'm one of those that would pay for 2.0 if it meant I owned it. if 3.0 was good enough I'd pay for that as well, but the fact its only a subscription means i'll just keep using 1.4. which equals lost revenue. and reading the forums there's a lot more people who feel the same way. which in turn equals A LOT of lost revenue.

A life time thing would be cool but personally I'd just be happy if the software was owned when purchased and thus would work forever, or the lifetime of your hardware at the very least..... if I then had to pay again for 3.0 or something when I get newer hardware that maybe 2.0 doesn't work with then fair enough. but then I could perhaps pay my £40 for 2.0 and use it for 5-10 years. it's like windows basically. had 98 skipped me, had xp, skipped vista, got 7, skipped 8 and 9 (8.1), might get 10.. lifetime subscription would be cool but I'd be happy with just a paid license and not this subscription stuff. for that reason i'll just keep using 1.4 until either my hardware outdates it or they change the pricing policies,

Doesn't work like that though. If I did that I'd blow half my devices up. For example I have a media folder, in that folder I have music, films, family videos, holiday photos, baby photo's etc etc. I could in theory simply have 1 share for the media folder yes, but that would kill half of my devices while having my mp3 collection sync to my phone and car stereo is great, syncing the entire media folder and everything in it wouldn't work, I don't need wedding videos and baby photos and a collection of movies on my mobile phone or in my car, my phone is only 64gig, my media directory is little over a terabyte. it just doesn't work I could also in theory also sync my main c:\users\me folder instead of separate shares for docs pictures downloads etc. however this is a real bad idea as then I end up syncing app data folders and system specific stuff and wondering why my other devices and software don't work anymore. If I'm syncing 50 folders and the pro features expire then 40 of my folders no longer sync. or so i gathered from a question in another thread. end result is software stops working

Personally I have no issue with the price tag itself. I would happily pay £40 for sync 2.0. the biggest thing that puts me off is that if I pay £40 for 2.0 and I don't pay £40 next year or the year after then my software stops working. what they should do imo is sell the software a s a full licencse so you can use it forever, and then either charge for new versions another £40 for 3.0 or offer an additional premium plan that includes upgrades and premium support etc etc. maybe in a year or so when sync 3.0 comes out it has a bunch of features I really am not interested in so I wouldn't buy it. I'd stick with 2.0. maybe the year after 4.0 has some awesome features I really like. and then I would upgrade. and pay another £40. but at then I'd know that my software will keep working if I decide to skip 3.0 or a years payment. In a way I liken it to windows, I Bought 98, skipped ME as it wasn't worth upgrading, Bought XP pro, skipped vista as again it wasn't worth upgrading, Upgraded to 7 and still using 7 as I have no interest in 8 or 9 ( well 8.1), 10 looks quite good from what i've seen of the preview thus far so will likely upgrade to 10 from 7. What I am then is a customer that would happily pay £40 for sync 2.0, but is put off simply by the fact it will stop working if I don't pay £40 next year and the year after and so on for this reason i'll just keep using 1.4, which from a business point of view is a lost customer and a lost sale. the one thing that stops me buying 2.0 is that it will stop working in a year if I choose not to pay again. maybe 3.0 doesn't offer anything of interest, like my windows example

any answer to this yet?

What happens if I buy pro, sync a hundred folders, and then then my sub expires? do 90 of these folders suddenly stop syncing or get deleted? personally this is what puts me off a subsctiption model. the idea things would stop working if my sub expired.

@Roman. it is the nas device. if I stop and start the sync service on the nas (withoug rebooting the nas itself) it will find and connect to my laptop. however if I switch my laptop off for a couple of hours and back on, then my nas won't find it again and the service on my nas needs to be restarted. the last few lines of my nas log are as follows:- [20150220 22:43:18.319] Send ping to peer (1074970146925A771F7272D13DBB21CF7FDAD0F1) for share AD896A42F8C6572DA71116B87B522DBFBF72695F: [20150220 22:43:18.319] ping 10.100.1.150:23035 [20150220 22:43:20.359] Send ping to peer (1074970146925A771F7272D13DBB21CF7FDAD0F1) for share AD896A42F8C6572DA71116B87B522DBFBF72695F: [20150220 22:43:20.359] ping 10.100.1.150:23035 [20150220 22:43:20.359] Checking connection to 10.100.1.150:23035:TCP [20150220 22:43:20.869] Send ping to peer (1074970146925A771F7272D13DBB21CF7FDAD0F1) for share AD896A42F8C6572DA71116B87B522DBFBF72695F: [20150220 22:43:20.869] ping 10.100.1.150:23035 [20150220 22:43:21.329] Failed to open tunnel to 10.100.1.150:23035:TCP [20150220 22:43:21.329] SF[695F] [D0F1]: peer lost in regard to my earlier post and my mini test. leaving a pc in an always on state with a second test folder to sync seems to have better results. at time of writing this sync on my laptop currently finds 1 peer for a folder "test 2" which is on the other computer. but no peers for "test 1" which is on my nas. there was a period earlier where it wouldn't establish a peer to the other computer either but windows update restarted my laptop and it re-established a peer to the pc, but still no peer to the nas. Trackers were disabled on all shares on all machines during my tests. relying on lan to sync. having worked from pc to pc I wonder if the problem could be a Linux one. Will send logs from all 3 devices after posting this. hopefully will help identify the problem. note these problems only occur when trackers are disabled, if I enable trackers on my shares and set the debug to 0000 on nas then i have no issues at all thus it seems to be a lan problem of some description..

I think the bigger concern would be if you use a feature of pro and your sub expires. Then you lose that feature. With a owned license that will never happen.thappen.the trade of is that your version may go out of date or need upgrading in future with the release of newer is and stuff. Thats why I think a owned kicense plus upgrade service would be best. People pay price the software is theres. Throw in a yesrs free updates. And then offer a sub sevice for updates atop.after that year. The people can opt to subscribe and always stay up to date but won't lose any existing functionality if they don't. I think thats what worries people. If pro has supportnfor supernhuge directories with a on demand download service will that accesd be lost when sub expires?

@RomanZ I believe it to be a multicasting issue as per your info. if the nas is is idle for any length of time then when I turn on my laptop then it will not find any peers. if I then restart the service on my nas a connection will be established between the 2 devices until my laptop once again shuts down or gets taken out of the house. you mentioned sync will multicast for a few minutes after the service is started so I believe this is why a restart works, I believe the problem lies in where sync is supposed to multicast when the network detects a change, It seems either no changes in network are detected or the multicast simply isn't triggered. I am going to grab a spare computer tomorrow and install and run sync on that, leave it running in the same fashion as my nas and see if it replicates the problem. idea is to put a test folder to sync on the computer one on the nas and have both sync to the laptop. then see if the laptop will find a peer for either of those folders when connected to the network, will try that over 24 hours or so and mail in any logs and findings I come across.

Thanks, device now sleeps with trackers enabled. seems to be syncing better also