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  1. Another issue, I wanted to find out, what is intended .sync/Archive folder functionality. According to preliminar tests (default BTsync installation on workstation (win) and linux server). i) Folder is synched, and content is 1:1 in all visible folders on both machines. 1. If I delete a file from synched folder on Workstation, it get's deleted from this workstation. And it's not in .sync/Archive folder of the workstation. 2. Looking @ linux server, deleted file is in .sync/Archive folder on linux server and can be recovered. 3. Deleting file on Linux server, the same result - it's not in Linux .sync/Archive, but it is visible in .sync/Archive of worsktation. By this situation, there's no way to recover deleted file from .sync/Archive, without other party's operations. E.g., if I accidentally delete file from workstation, I can not recover it by myself, and have to introduce operator of linux server, to move or copy file back to particular location on linux server, and vice versa. Is this intended behavior? Or there might be a way, to sync .sync/Archive folder too? Latter would allow to recover deleted files by myself. Another question: Does sync_trash_ttl gets synched between devices, or it's per host settings? If it's per host, are there means to centrally control this parameter? Appologies for bringing this up again. It has been discussed here before, including myself http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/24646-sync-archive-not-working/#entry92432 Yet, are there any changes in this functionality planned, and the question of sync_trash_ttl settings - remain.
  2. GreatMarko, Thank you for reply. I was assuming this, but PR, regarding BTsync as a replacement for DropBox, makes it miss significant parts. Any ways, it might be a feature for business needs in future, if it's achievable at all.
  3. This issue have been discussed from different point of views, but still, it remains. Could it be a case, that BTsync is not useable in such situations? The case: 4 users activey sync one folder with MS Office files, between their computers.A couple of files have a profile, to be changed on frequent basis by any of these 4 users.It is known, that BTSync overwrites files, according to last saved document timestamp. Situation I: User A opens file for edit. Meanwhile, while editing, User B opens the same file on his computer, makes small editions, and saves. After User B edit, User A finishes editing, and saves changes. Result - at best, User B's edits are lost. Situation II: User A opens file for edit, and works for a longer period of time. While User A edits, User B opens file for longer edits too. User A finishes job, saves and closes file, User B does the same, after User A has saved the changes. Result - there's no sign of User's A edits, as User's B edits are the last. To my understanding, BTSync is not the mean to solve such conflicts, and apparently, files have to be copied locally to other folder, for edit. Afterward, moving it back to sync folder. Although, this actually does not solve situations I and II neither. Am I correct? Is there any ways to solve such cases with a help of btsync?
  4. Update on my tests: Initially, I noticed, that actually folders are not being synched, despite fact, that BTsync indicates, that folder is in sync. According to logs, needed to implement firewall settings on server side, and created new test folder. - now, when sync is working, it still partially work for .sync\Archive folder: 1. when I delete or change file on Workstation, it gets uploaded to server, inlcuding changes. 2. when I visit server's .sync\Archive - versions of a files are there. Visiting .sync\Archive folder on Desktop - it's empty Folder security key was created on Workstation, and pasted to Server, if that explains something. Why Arcive folder is populated on Server, but not on workstation, where files are actually changed, and the key was generated?
  5. Sorry for bringing this up, but the same situation here almost a year later. BitTorrent Sync 1.4.83 Beta - both Windows Desktop (8.1) and Ubuntu Server. Both locations and settings define "Store deleted files in folder archive", but after tests and experiments, .sync/Archive folder is still empty in both locations. How would it be possible to troubleshoot this?
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    Sync Api Keys

    Hi, Callum! As aaronliao allready suggested, try to PM him after official request from your filled form (http://www.bittorrent.com/sync/developers). I still have not received new key in my e-mail, but I managed to find the old one (Email search helps in my case ). And as reply to my 2.question was confirmative, I still use formerly sent key. It seems, that something has changed @btsync, and even putting in Q4 e-mail into whitelist, still does not deliver one.
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    Sync Api Keys

    Please pardon me, if I rise this question again (I've noticed forum posts regarding a queue for API key distribution, so I'm patient, but still would like to get some expectations). 1. What's current queue length (expected wait time), to get new API key (registered afternoon 03.07.2014 GMT+2)? 2. Can a Dev use the same API key for several projects, or each project is advised to register separate API keys? (even if dev E-mail address is the same for all projects) 3. Is there any other place, to get/recover or copy API keys, besides e-mail messages? 4. What's the e-mail address, API key is sent from, to enter in Whitelist (for case of SPAM filters)? Appreciate your info...
  8. RomanZ, thank you for reply. A NOTE: In initial description of situation, I indicated, that network firewall (not host-based FW) solution is deployed in both locations. This means, that, there are edge firewalls/router in each location, protecting whole internal networks. So this would not be related to host based FW solution, as noted at the end of paragraph (Windows FW). By phrase - 'firewall friendly', I meant, that each btsync user, who installs it on own computer, should not bother about any firewall settings, as in most cases, outgoing traffic (and initiation) is allowed (not filtered out by network FW). So - 'firewall friendly', would mean, that user installs btsync on his/her computer, and it's ready to go, without any additional requests to IT helpdesk for special configuration on network FW. (this does not relate to corporate networks, where ITs struggle to filter out or at least lower the amount of p2p traffic ) I'd assume, that btsync instance running in one or the other location, is pinging tracker or other nodes for connectivity, thus providing actually opened channel to the internet for sync operations. In such a way, BTsync instance, which is behind corporate network based firewall, initiate connection to internet from within the internal network, and keep it open. So it shouldn't be a problem for statefull firewalls to allow communications (inflows on the same ip:port) afterwards. (If only a node, which is outside corporate network change IP due to roaming or other conditions. But that's another story.) Yes, I'm thinking about the fact, that statefull FW is implemented. Actually there are solutions to enable UPnP configurations on firewall, but that's what I'm trying to avoid, to provide smooth BTsync operations. It's like with FTP, to tighten FW as much as you can, and do not open ports, or allow systems automatically to open such. And I'm trying to understand and avoid potential manual configurations of FW for incoming traffic, or rather block it by default. As I assume, that BTsync instance for local/internet communications in any other ways is useless, if it does not initiate first connections at least to Tracker server, than it might be considered, that first Tracker connection initiation from BTsync instance from internal network would open connection in network firewall as legitime. And as a way of replies, BTsync instances from outside networks can communicate. Would it be correct? (sorry for mess of the phrases, I type, what's on my mind) Sorry for lack of clear description. I've spotted the following: Location A: 1x btsync instance, listening on port (say) 44000, and firewall port 44000 is opened and redirected to this instance. Location B: 3x btsync devices are active, and one of these instances (spotted by swithcing them off one by one) is trying to connect to Location A btsync instance on port 44943 and gets blocked by FW. (no other sync instances in location A are present nor listening on 44943 TCP/UDP) The question is: Why particular (spotted) btsync instance in location B is trying to connect to location A instance on different port, if there are no hashes/instances listening/indicating on such port? Hm (regarding last statement)!?! Such a situation would make BTSync inoperational in most cases, but it's not so. I'm going to test this in a couple of days. Only within the same network or subnet, there might be a situation, where there are no firewalls between BTsync instances, or in other case, on each firewall that would require opening relevant ports, if a user from this network decides to install btsync. I can not give more details on this assumption, but will come back after tests. By now, I still assume, that the benefit of P2P and BTsync is in fact, that connections are opened from within LAN to outside, thus overcomming necessity to configure FW to operate, and such channels are used for data transfer. But this statement obviously then rise a question - why there is such a thing for listening port, configured in btsync, for outside LAN communications purposes? If BTsync initiate connection from LAN to internet, this connection gets random FW port, about which Tracker is informed (as you mention external IP:port), and that would be sufficient to run connection. Listening port might be as additional option to finegrain communications, but it's rather useless for inter LAN communications for basic purposes. Thank you for clarification. This would obviously require network FW configuration in cases, when outgoing traffic is filtered by firewall too.
  9. There are multiple btsync instances (devices) in 2 distinct locations. Each location is protected with network based firewall (UPnP disabled for security reasons in both locations). If I understand correctly, upon device boot (if btsync starts automatically), btsync connects to Tracker server, to inform about device, hashes, current IP and port it's listening. (that's why it is FW friendly). Please correct me if I'm wrong. And thus, all BTsync instances can find each other, if they have to negotiate over internet. Here are a couple of questions and assumptions: - Because BTsync is FW friendly (see above my understanding), it should not be a requirement to introduce any particular firewall settings allowing UDP traffic to come in, and all other instances should get acknowledged on new ports/ip addresses. Q: Why there are btsync instances, which try to hit firewall on particular UDP ports (44943), obviously getting blocked, to get connection, if they should not? (the sync is working correctly any way). - If still, some firewall configurations should be deployed, allowing incoming UDP traffic and port redirection, then there might be a conflict with listening ports, if configured manually. This means, that each btinstance behind teh firewall should be configured manually, looking to not place 2 or more instances on the same listening ports. Thus it might be configured in firewall with UDP and port redirection particularly. I'd obviously try to escape this config, if it is not requirement, to lower burden on management and tracking. Q: Are there still requirements for firewall configurations and should incoming UDP traffic, including port redirection, be deployed, to allow BTsync to run flawlessly? Appreciate your comments and insights on causes, why it's happening. P.S. Actually just noticed, that the same happens to TCP connections too. So it might be related.
  10. 1st issue: Ah, ok, I got it. I was thinking, that this would be kind of solution, to temporary prevent Server #1 putting new archives in folders. OK, this would be to ensure, that actually deleted archives in Sync folder, in future do not take place, while they are in .SyncArchive folder according to set up TTL value. 2nd issue: Thank you for clearing this up. This was another way, what I was thinking, to check whether differences in file upload/download, or even monitor file size changes with local script on server #2. There will be no GUI on these servers, besides btsync installation web interface, if needed. But, as far as I know, it can be set by Web GUI too. Or at least - via config file. Just noticed another problem - Server #1 is CentOS. Do you have any reliable info, on whether there is a distribution for CenOS?
  11. Thank you RomanZ for your insight. Yes, I was planning to initiate deletion of archive from server #1 via moving archive from sync folder on server #2 to Archive folder. Thus initiating delete procedure from server #1. In this scenario, I didn't get understanding on your 1.point - Disable moving files to sync archive on server #1. The case is, that Server #1 has it's own scripts, building these archives, and I can not interact with these scripts, and preferably wold not want to. E.g. let Server #1 do his own things as formerly configured. At current state of idea, file names on Server #1 are different each time, which cuts off some difficulties on file identifications. Atleast for this scenario. Can you please give more details on your meaning for point 1.? The other parts are clear. The thing, which troubled my mind was, can it be reliable, to consider, if .!Sync extention is removed, should we make any other checks, to understand, if file is correct. From your reply I understand, that it is reliable. The second way - kind of interesting. I'll try to play with API. If I get it right, when we query all folder peers (in case some of them have transferred all chunks of file, others - not), it still gives us complete picture of file status. E.g., if there would be some peers, that haven't completed sync, it will result in difference between "upload" / "download" figures, not having to bother about number and state of these peers. Am I correct? Thanks again!
  12. The intention of experiment, is to use BTsync as an efficient transfer mechanism, to copy archive files between servers. As according to this forum info, versioning is not reliably working, I had an idea, to catch, when particular file is completely transferred to server #1, and use additional tools on server #2 to move ready file from particular sync folder to archive folder. For example: 1. Server #1 prepares archive, and places it in sync folder, linked with BTsync to Server #2 2. BTsync start transfer (new file on Server #2 meanwhile has a name with .!Sync extention). 3. When the file transfer is completed, it becomes without .!Sync extention on Server #2 4. Check this status on Server #2, and invoke script to move the file to Archive folder, from Sync folder on the same server #2 5. By moving file to Archive folder, this would invoke delete procedure of file on Server #1 via BTsync principles, thus freeing up space on Server #1 There are a couple of complexity scenarios regarding interrupted transfers, versioning, changing the content of synced file, etc. But for now, this would be the simple scenario - when file is uploaded to server #2, move it to another Archive folder outside BTsync functionality, and invoke delete on Server #1. The question is - how to reliably find out, if the file is completely transferred to server #2? Or, does server #2 has complete correct file copy, to start other operations on it? Looking in log file, didn't give any reliably signs nor entries, that file xxx.zip transfer was completed successfully, which was the first place I was looking for confirmation from BTsync process. But there are no such. May be somebody can throw some ideas, on how this might be achieved? Or may be other solutions can result in this scenario completion? The main idea is to move archives from server #1 to server #2, and delete them from server #1 after sync.
  13. Guys, I feel really stupid now. Nils, thank you for sharing this. I just created folder in btsync linux instance with BTsync generated key, and pasted it in the above mentioned format to http://goqr.me/ Format: btsync://longsecretkeyxxx?n=foldernameonserverAnd it just worked. I could scan it with iPhone. As it was quite a long time ago, since I posted my initial question, I could not remember, what I was doing differently then. The only thing I can recall, is, I was not using protocol and ?n=foldername parts in a code - just pure code. Yet a couple of another events happened since - btsync updates on iOS, which might happen to correct some bugs. Anyway, this is working, and correct URL should be passed to QR generator. Thank you for participation in this discussion and sharing these items.
  14. Hi, Makaveil! Unfortunately not. I had to drop BTsync experiment in favour of urgent day to day tasks and priorities, but this is not "dead" anyway, and in some time I'll return back to testing, and hopefully post my findings here. At that time I was relying on BTsync community activity, hoping, that I was not the only one, trying to achieve this, but that didn't happen. But here are my assumptions and possible steps, what I'd do, returning back to this project: As "jfitie" advised, <NAME> parameter might be folder nameThis URL has to be hashed/encrypted, before posting to QR generation (I assume, this was my pitfall, which I just missed at that time, but I might be wrong)My first tasks of solving this out, would be BTsync instance installation on Ubuntu server, and analysis of QR generation functions implemented there. This will shed the light very much, as it just works.I do have to say, that I'm booked for another month, so there might not be any news from me on this point. But other community members are very welcome to share their achievements, if any at this point, if I do not manage to do this earlier.
  15. Have you managed to find out the cause of solution? I have similar log entries, and the same error lines are present e.g.: [20131219 13:44:25.378] Torrent /Users/username/Pictures/localfolder/_IMG_0014.JPG status:137 error:<NULL> meta:1 conns:1 io:0
  16. Thank you jfitie for your response. What's <NAME> parameter? Folder name? If it's several names with space between, should "" be used? or it's better to replace dash with %40 code?
  17. j2b


    I figured it out. Thanks. Had missing php5-curl library. It probably would be a case to indicate it in D BTSync module dependencies.
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    Hi! I've noticed your D module. I'm trying to get some initial working tested, but have no luck yet. Would you mind please sharing some initial use case with Rules? (not a programmer and custom module would be overkill for my current knowledge) I might figure out other ways after.
  19. Found solution: The problem was in old version of btsync (Version 1.1.82), where API was not introduced yet. Upgraded (to Version 1.2.71) and things started to work.
  20. [sOLVED] Ubuntu server 12.04. Initially used default configuration, and everything works. After adding "api_key" : "xxx" to conf file, btsync can not start any more. Log file indicates error in BTSync configuration file. After removing api_key line, everything start to work again. Do I miss something regarding API data enter? dpkg-reconfigure btsync does not ask for API key neither.
  21. I was trying to generate QR code of BTSync folder with online QR generator. Copied secret key, pasted it in any QR Generator tool, but this QR code does not work on mobile devices - the code is not recognized. Initial idea was to build web app to create folders on server, and generate QRs for such.